Talk:Tin(II) chloride
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Tin(II) chloride was one of the Natural sciences good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||
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Current status: Delisted good article |
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House MD
[edit]According to episode 2.15 of House M.D., "When I was a kid, my dad was stationed at a marine base in Egypt. We were in the middle of nowhere and there was absolutely nothing for a kid to do except look for a mummy's tomb.... I never actually did find a mummy, but I did learn a fair amount about the ancient Egyptians. For example, they discovered that stannous chloride is not only great for toughening ruby glass, but if it's mixed with gold, it turns bright purple." Any of this accurate? 139.84.48.249 15:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think there's certainly some truth in it; from memory I think it may be used to make "Purple of Cassius" (see [1]). We should probably look up some more authoritative sources on this and add it in. It may be relevant to Gold(III) chloride as well. Walkerma 17:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I deleted the following text from the Uses section: "This very reaction between stannous chloride and gold was used in episode #215:Clueless of House to affirm gold poisoning.[citation needed]". The reference to that episode of House in the Popular Culture section is more than enough: it doesn't belong in Uses too. -- EmmetCaulfield (talk) 15:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Stannous Chloride is in fact used as an indicator for gold and PGMs in aqueous solutions. Many hobbyists are using it. I added its use in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salut151 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
held nom
[edit]this article is being held on importance for the inclusion in the 0.7 test release. that hold nominations discussion link about leads to the wrong page; until it is fixed, here is the link instead. JoeSmack Talk 19:29, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
- Should be fixed. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
GA Sweeps Review
[edit]As a part of WikiProject Good Articles' Sweeps process, we are reviewing all older GAs to see if they still meet the existing Good Article criteria. This article was promoted to GA on December 9, 2005 by Walkerma. Unfortunately, it appears that only the {{GA}} tag was added to the talk page as I am unable to find evidence that a full review was conducted.
Here is how the article matches up against the current GA criteria:
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- The article complies with the manual of style, but the prose is poor. I find it to be too technical, and not very helpful to a reader without an extensive science or chemistry background. The chemical properties section really doesn't have a very good opening or summary itself, and goes right into the details, with heavy dependence on equations.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- I am going to pass this on the verifiability criterion due to its inline citations & evidence of additional general references. I don't see any evidence of WP:OR, although it would be much better if inline citations were used over the general references -- that way, it would be much more clear where information is coming from, and easier to verify specific claims. I don't think the article would pass a featured article review with this, but I think it's acceptable for GA.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- The article doesn't appear complete. Most sections are very short, and more work is needed to organize the information and improve its readability and organization. The lead section is also too short and doesn't adequately summarize the article. Most individual sections don't have very good introductions themselves, and jump right into technical details, which would tend to scare off inexperienced readers. There's no information in here about hazards or safety precautions. There's nothing in the article about its discovery.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- I don't see any major WP:NPOV issues.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars etc.:
- There's not a whole lot of edits with the article overall. I don't see any major stability issues.
- No edit wars etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- The images are tagged appropriately, though some of them are sized too large. The images overall don't connect well with text in the article; instead, they appear to have been placed in the article as a substitute for providing good text, instead of as a complement to a good, well-written section.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Mostly due to criteria #1 and #3, as well as partially #6 (though the image issue mentioned has probably more to do with prose or completeness), I don't think the article meets the GA criteria. I am also choosing to delist due to the fact that there has not been a proper GA review done in the past, and instead, it appears that the GA tag was simply added with no comments (or even an edit summary). Once the article is improved, it can be renominated at WP:GAN to be relisted. Dr. Cash (talk) 15:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Pass/Fail:
Assessment comment
[edit]The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Tin(II) chloride/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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Last edited at 18:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 08:51, 30 April 2016 (UTC)